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Option 4: Enrolment Cap

This option would involve setting an enrolment limit per grade for a specific program at a school that is at or over capacity.

In tricider, comments are captured as Ideas, support is captured as Votes and additional feedback is captured as Pros and Cons. Ideas that garner the most support rise to the top of the list. Please note that just because an idea rises to the top of the list does not necessarily mean it will be implemented. The decision-making process will consider all combined input and feedback along with CBE values and planning principles, available space in schools, financial sustainability, government legislation and more. Together, all of this must be carefully considered in making recommendations and decisions.


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Ideas
Pros and cons
 
Votes
LAST/LEAST OPTION
In-person session March 6, 2018 and April 9, 2018
 
Caps are the worst option. CBE must respect access to French Immersion for late entry.
8
 
Cap is not fair for kids who live close to the school.
4
 
This needs to be the absolute last option on the table.
by Dave
8
 
Capping shouldn't even be an option.
by Dee
7
 
French Immersion (early or late) should be available to any student. This IS a Bilingual Country.
by B Bardi
8
 
Public education needs to be properly supported and access should be reasonable. A child shouldn’... more
by Heather
3
 
Doesn't CBE have access to City census? Planning for future demand perhaps shrinking boundaries ... more
by B
 
89
Vote

KD, JL, Mazlina Navarre and 86 more

A continuing immersion student should be guaranteed a spot with their cohort (even out of bounds) over a late immersion student new to the program.
In-person session March 21, 2018
 
Late immersion is chosen by the student not the parent. These students are committed and do just... more
by Susan
8
 
Does a VOTE for this "idea" indicate support? Is there a counter statement that would capture the... more
by JL
38
Vote

Luis N., M, JP and 35 more

Place higher value on FRENCH, as compared to alternative programs.
In-person session March 6, 2018
31
Vote

Luis N., teacher, Millie Adam and 28 more

Cap doesn't address root problem around DEMAND for program.
In-person session March 21, 2018
 
Could be a bridge until building new schools.
2
30
Vote

JL, Luis N., Jessica and 27 more

Lottery is very stressful.
In-person session March 21, 2018
 
It is not fair for kids live so close by the school.
5
 
Siblings need to stay together
by SF
3
29
Vote

JL, Mazlina Navare, SF and 26 more

Opportunity: Prioritize spots for students with siblings already in French Immersion because of learning dynamic and logistics in the home.
In-person session March 6, 2018
 
Tricky as this goes to student choice; sibling may not be the right fit for french
by JL
28
Vote

JL, SF, Jessica and 25 more

Dislike the lottery system. Would rather more schools opened to accommodate children.
In-person session March 21, 2018
 
Agree -- if an offered stream is that popular the CBE should be planning long term on how to acco... more
by Kaaren Murray
21
Vote

JL, Mazlina Navarre, Jessica and 18 more

Challenge: This is, by far, the worst option - it limits future options for children in Canada.
In-person session March 6, 2018
20
Vote

JL, Jessica, Dee and 17 more

Change the legislation so that French is not an alternative.
In-person session March 6, 2018
20
Vote

JL, AMP, Yi Chiang and 17 more

How can you justify not offering French to all Canadians - should be a priority as bilingual country.
In-person session April 9, 2018
 
Agree -- as an adult who only had access to French as an option throughout junior and senior high... more
by Kaaren Murray
19
Vote

Luis N., Jessica, AMP and 16 more

Goal shouldn't be running all schools at 99% capacity. Sport, art, music programs cut to support these capacity numbers.
In-person session March 21, 2018
 
Creating a terrible school for kids to attend will certainly help reduce enrollment...not sure th... more
by Tom
1
18
Vote

JL, Parent020, P16 and 15 more

How does lottery/cap impact families with multiple children?
In-person session March 21, 2018
15
Vote

JL, SF, P13 and 12 more

Lottery is problematic - there are no other ways to access French education in the public system - you have to go to the English program or late.
In-person session March 6, 2018
14
Vote

JL, Jessica, P12 and 11 more

If your child is accepted in French Immersion he/she should have a guaranteed a spot through to Grade 12?
In-person session March 21, 2018
 
Don't they?
12
Vote

Yi Chiang, Claudia, Christina Stobart and 9 more

It's a bad idea! French is Canadian. Cut other programs before losing education in an official language.
In-person session March 6, 2018
12
Vote

Tom, T, Katy Emanuel and 9 more

Challenge: Not an option to cap in French Immersion in Canada.
In-person session March 6, 2018
 
Worst option
1
 
Making public education exclusive
9
Vote

Jessica, Katy Emanuel, ct and 6 more

Sharing space with Calgary Catholic?
In-person session April 9, 2018
9
Vote

Jessica, Emma, P7 and 6 more

Option 5: Build another French Immersion school please!
In-person session March 6, 2018
 
System is at capacity. Late immersion getting pushed out due to lack of capacity.
by Ginette
7
Vote

User#8675309, Emma, Ginette and 4 more

Portables? To get through volatility.
In-person session March 21, 2018
 
Portables are permanent.
 
Modular buildings can be configured/reconfigured to meet the changes in the school capacity. They... more
by Dave
2
7
Vote

Jessica, P6, P5 and 4 more

What % of French Immersion students stay in the program right through Grade 12?
In-person session March 21, 2018
7
Vote

kerry, P6, P5 and 4 more

Claw back space from offices and charters back to CBE (i.e, Parkdale, Mountview)
In-person session April 9, 2018
 
Agreed. With a 27% vacancy rate in Calgary office space there should be alternative options for C... more
4
 
Also Greenview
by Sdcollier
5
Vote

Mom of 2, Christina Stobart, ct and 2 more

Opportunity: Avoids overcrowding.
In-person session March 21, 2018
6
Vote

kerry, Kb, P4 and 3 more

Options - all things to all people is an expensive ($) model - french, english, that's it.
In-person session March 6, 2018
6
Vote

S, Parent020, Katy Emanuel and 3 more

First come first served (i.e., camping out for registration) also stressful.
In-person session March 21, 2018
5
Vote

P5, P4, P3 and 2 more

Opportunity: Predictable for school.
In-person session March 21, 2018
5
Vote

P5, P4, P3 and 2 more

Opportunity: Prioritize space for continuing immersion over late immersion.
In-person session March 6, 2018
5
Vote

SF, Parent020, P3 and 2 more

Opportunity: Revamp French program entirely by having an entry point at a different grade (e.g., Grade 3)
In-person session March 6, 2018
5
Vote

kerry, Kb, P3 and 2 more

Have we considered asking students for their creative problem solving ideas for the challenges?
In-person session March 21, 2018
4
Vote

Jessica, P3, P2 and 1 more

The lottery system is not fair.
In-person session March 6, 2018
4
Vote

SF, P3, P2 and 1 more

Challenge: Late French Immersion is also an established program. Limiting late French Immersion only at Grade 7 is not necessarily equitable and sustainable.
In-person session March 6, 2018
4
Vote

Jessica, P3, P2 and 1 more

What is plan if English schools become overcrowded?
In-person session March 21, 2018
3
Vote
P1
P2
P3
Challenge: Early French Immersion is a parent choice. Late French Immersion is generally a student choice. But Late French Immersion would be the first program to be limited. Why?
In-person session March 6, 2018
3
Vote
Jessica
P1
Susan
Choice of French Immersion over choice of other programs.
In-person session March 6, 2018
3
Vote
Katy Emanuel
P1
P2
Opportunity: Public education is for the common good and should accessible and equitable to all students.
In-person session March 6, 2018
 
Public education in Canada should include the option of receiving good, quality English and Frenc... more
by Kaaren Murray
3
Vote
Kaaren Murray
P1
P2
Are siblings taken into consideration if a cap is in place?
In-person session April 9, 2018
 
Yes
2
2
Vote
P1
SF
Challenge: Worry for parents - plans for after school extracurricular day care all dependent on lottery.
In-person March 21, 2018
 
Uncertainty
1
2
Vote
P1
P2
Opportunity: Access for special needs kids?
In-person session March 21, 2018
2
Vote
P1
P2
Opportunity: Keeps class sizes consistent.
In-person session March 21, 2018
2
Vote
kerry
P1
Opportunity: Easy planning for administration (space).
In-person session March 21, 2018
2
Vote
P1
P2
Health and Fitness should be considered. Walking to and from school should be a choice in communities.
In-person session March 21, 2018
2
Vote
P1
P2
CAP might force addressing the high demand by opening French Immersion programs in more schools.
In-person session March 21, 2018
2
Vote
P1
Tessa
Walk zone students (while prioritized) could still get the shaft.
In-person session March 21, 2018
2
Vote
P1
P2
Question: How is the cap determined - how is the capacity calculated? At Banff Trail, we lost the music room before talking about a cap - at that point it was too late!
In-person session March 6, 2018
2
Vote
Mom of 2
P1
Con: Late French Immersion may disappear as an option - not a good idea.
In-person session March 6, 2018
2
Vote
Jessica
P1
Lottery prioritizes early entry. If it's a priority then this would not be an issue.
In-person session March 21, 2018
 
French is an important part of my culture. I would be crushed if I were to lose at the lottery an... more
1
1
Vote
P1
If a cap is imposed it should be imposed at kindergarten not later in schooling. If a child is enrolled in French Immersion at kindergarten they should be eligible to stay for the rest of their schooling.
by KT
 
Do not impose a cap at middle school after children have already attended a number of years of FI... more
by KT
1
Vote
Claudia
Opportunity: ? Start early at Grade 3 instead of K/Grade 1.
In-person session March 6, 2018
 
Studies show kids learn the same starting in K to Grade 3
1
 
Doesn't this just push the pressure ahead to Grade 3 instead of K/Gr1/
by Kaaren Murray
1
Vote
P1
I prefer no cap but I would also prefer a cap over dropping the quality of everyone's education. Teaching in the gym does not equal quality education.
In-person session March 21, 2018
1
Vote
P1
Challenge: Perception of limited/elite status.
In-person session March 21, 2018
1
Vote
P1
More students per class to avoid rejected students.
In-person session April 9, 2018
1
Vote
P1
How much consideration is given to non instructional space in capacity at the CBE decision making level, e.g., gym being used therefore limited physical ed programming?
In-person session April 9, 2018
1
Vote
P1
When do you start a new French Immersion program in a "new" school?
In-person session March 6, 2018
1
Vote
P1
If there is space at William Aberhart High School (WAHS), why not shift Grade 9 from Branton School to WAHS so they would offer Grades 9-12, shift Branton School to Grade 6-8 and Banff Trail School to K-5?
In-person session March 21, 2018
 
There ISN’T space at Abe!
 
junior high with the opportunity for continuing and late immersion students to be combined is ide... more
by Susan
2
1
Vote
Spm
Offer French (or Spanish, etc.) as a subject to late immersion students
by Kat
Late immersion students are not likely to be at the same language level as the early immersion on... more
0
Vote
We should be responding to the needs and desires of the public and families. This is public education; therefore the desires of the parents must be taken into consideration and resources allocated. Maybe even especially for French Immersion, as it is a program, which has been emulated by many oth... more
by Sara
0
Vote
Makes it hard to plan childcare.
In-person session March 21, 2018
0
Vote
Opportunity: Fair/equality.
In-person session March 21, 2018
0
Vote
Opportunity: Stability.
In-person session March 21, 2018
0
Vote
Why do we bus from such great distance? Time, cost and quality of life.
In-person session March 21, 2018
0
Vote
Challenge: Limit the growth of the program.
In-person session March 21, 2018
0
Vote
CAPS = Political change (immersion not an "alternative" program).
In-person session March 6, 2018
0
Vote
Portables vs other options - what are pros/cons?
In-person session March 6, 2018
0
Vote
Keeps class sizes down.
In-person session March 6, 2018
0
Vote
Not popular, may be practical?
In-person session March 6, 2018
0
Vote
Challenge: "They" are taking "our" spots.
In-person session March 21, 2018
 
???
0
Vote
Enrolment caps lead to lottery.
In-person session March 21, 2018
 
Enrollment cap and lottery are the worst options in my mind. If the CBE offers French Immersion ... more
by Kaaren Murray
0
Vote

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